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March 31st, 2003, 12:46 AM
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tfunch24
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I just bought one from an eBay seller. It comes equipped with the following (from the eBay description):
Original brown leather case
1 Wollensak Cine Raptar 12.5mm lens w/caps
1 25mm B&H Lumax with Rear cap
Filter holders for both lenses
Numerous contrast filters (red, yellow, orange, etc) for B&W film
Speeds from 8-64 fps
Accepts C-Mount lenses
Shutter recently repaired, camera kept lubricated
I picked this up to make my first foray into 16mm films. Not the world's fanciest camera, but it should suffice for student films.
In general, I've heard pretty good things about Bell & Howell 16mm cameras. I have a B&H 16mm Filmo 141B that some woman gave me last Xmas, but that camera only accepts magazines.
Now I just need to find someplace locally that sells 16mm film or give Kodak a call....
Any thoughts?
Tom
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March 31st, 2003, 02:13 AM
#2
Inactive Member
Is this a DA, DL or DR? Some DA models will take single perf, some only double perf. not a big deal unless you want to convert the camera to super 16. this you can have done. these cameras need more oil than almost any other professional cameras. some DA models you can hand crank. most of the DR & DL's have this provision. the HR will take the 400ft mags. i would suggest a manual, and fresh light oil. the DR & HR are fully professional cameras. the DA & DL have the basic same movements, but sport a lower quality viewfinder option. but, i often choose to shoot with a DA because they are not as cumbersome to carry. i'll take a Bell & Howell over a Bolex any day.
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March 31st, 2003, 02:28 AM
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tfunch24
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I don't know. It's a hand-cranked camera dating from the late 1920s--1926-1928, according to the eBay description.
Here's the photo:

I'm not planning on making the jump to Super 16 just yet, so if it's a DA I'm not really affected by the single perf/double perf issue.
I should have the camera by the end of this week or the beginning of next week.
I'm trying to track down a manual even as I type this.
Tom
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March 31st, 2003, 05:57 AM
#4
Inactive Member
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><table border="0" width="90%" bgcolor="#333333" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0"><tr><td width="100%"><table border="0" width="100%" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" bgcolor="#FF9900"><tr><td width="100%" bgcolor="#DDDDDD"><font size=2 face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by tfunch24:
I'm not planning on making the jump to Super 16 just yet, so if it's a DA I'm not really affected by the single perf/double perf issue.
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you might, 'cause kodak is discontinuing double perf stock.
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March 31st, 2003, 12:36 PM
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tfunch24
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Well, that puts it in a different light!
We'll see what happens.
Tom
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April 1st, 2003, 12:24 AM
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tfunch24
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The camera is equipped with a double-claw; I forgot to mention that in my initial description of the camera. Does that automatically entail double-sprockets?
I'm sorry, but I am rather unfamiliar with 16mm.
Tom
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April 1st, 2003, 04:19 AM
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Inactive Member
I don't think Kodak is stopping production on all double perf stocks. But, they are asking dealers to special order them. But even so, you can still buy Ilford and Fomapan film. If your camera has a single claw, changing the sprockets on these cameras is a very inexpensive option. The upside to the double claw camera is better registration. These make great animation cameras.
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April 1st, 2003, 04:23 PM
#8
Inactive Member
Yes, you would need to modify the claw as well as the sprockets to shoot single perf. I wouldn't worry about it. There is plenty of double perf out there. I have never shot single perf yet, both negative & reversal is out there. One thing is for sure. Your slow motion shots will be rock steady. Try here sometime: www.utphoto.com they do filmo conversions and repairs.
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April 2nd, 2003, 04:13 AM
#9
Inactive Member
That is a DA by the way. Looks like a real nice one.
I've never seen a winding key like that.
You may want to try to find a solid chrome key.
That looks like it may be hard to use. But you cannot hand crank that camera. You can only use the springwound motor.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ April 01, 2003 12:16 PM: Message edited by: rollemfilm ]</font>
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April 6th, 2003, 12:42 PM
#10
Inactive Member
Hi Tom,
I have a booklet, really old, on those cameras that I'll pick up over Easter, scann it and send it to you. Does yours have the side critical focusing finder? And watch out for the run button, it sometimes sticks on, better oil it there a little.
Film, single perf, can be had on special order from Kodak out of Denver. There may be some minimum number of spools to get, but that is no problem (with a charge card!) and a freezer. I'd like to get a bunch of Plus-X Reversal single perf.. If you are interested perhaps we could split a big order.
Michael
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ April 06, 2003 09:44 AM: Message edited by: regular8mm ]</font>
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